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DRAFT PROGRAMME
as of 29 August 2011

  (Click on a session below for further details)  

The ICAO FRMS Symposium
30 – 31 August



The Third Annual Meeting of the FRMS Forum
1 – 2 September 

Come and find out what new provisions will mean for the oversight and implementation of FRMS, get the highlights of the underlying science and gain insight into the more complex issues regarding FRMS.


Get informed!
 
 

Learn lessons from people in the aviation industry with hands-on experience in FRMS and review some of the commercial tools available to assist with implementation. Further information about the FRMS Forum may be found at: http://www.frmsforum.org

Gain experience!
 

ICAO’s FRMS Symposium Topics:
  • Day 1: Tuesday, 30 August 2011
The FRMS Forum’s Third Annual Meeting Programme:

Cocktail Reception - Hosted by ICAO

Dinner Reception**


The ICAO FRMS Symposium 

DAY 1: Tuesday, 30 August 2011 - Morning


OPENING
Moderator: Ms. Nancy Graham, Director, Air Navigation Bureau, ICAO

 
 

 
9:00 – 9:15

 
Opening and Welcome Remarks

 
Mr. Roberto Kobeh,
President of Council, ICAO.
 

 
9:15 – 9:45

 
Why we Need to Improve the Way we Manage Fatigue – The Global Perspective
 

 
Keynote Speaker:
Mr. Randy Babbitt, 
FAA Administrator
 

 9:45 – 9:50

 Lead in to Conference Sessions

 Nancy Graham, ICAO

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SESSION 1 – Is FRMS the Answer to All Our Fatigue Problems?
Moderator:
  Ms. Nancy Graham, Director, Air Navigation Bureau, ICAO
 


9:50 – 10:20


The FRMS Journey: From its Beginnings to ICAO Standards


Dr. Curt Graeber
Leader of ICAO's FRMS Task Force

Flight sponsored by:
National Airlines Council of Canada 

 

 
10:20 – 10:30

 
Questions to Dr. Graeber and Summary
 

 
Ms. Nancy Graham,
Director ANB, ICAO
 

    

 
10:30 - 11:00

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by the Air Canada Pilots Association (ACPA)
 

   

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SESSION 2 – FRMS SARPS – the Conceptual Framework

Moderator:  Mr.
Mervyn Fernando, President of the ANC, ICAO
 

 
11:00 – 11:10


Introduction:
Why do we need FRMS Standards and Recommended Practices?
 
 


Mr. Mervyn Fernando,
President ANC, ICAO
  

 
11:10 – 11:25


The Structure and Content of the FRMS Provisions

 


Dr. Michelle Millar
FRMS Project Coordinator, ICAO

 
11:25 - 11:40
 

 
The SMS & FRMS Relationship: Natural Bedfellows or Do They Both Have to Grow Up First?
 
 
Capt. John Illson,
Chief, ISM Section, ICAO

 
11:40 – 12:00


Lounge Interview:
FRMS Guidance for Regulators and Operators

 
Interviewees:

- Mr. Guenther Matschnigg,
  VP,  IATA
- Ms. Nancy Graham,
  Director ANB, ICAO
- Capt. Don Wykoff, President, IFALPA
 

 12:00 – 13:30

Lunch 

 

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DAY 1: Tuesday, 30 August 2011 - Afternoon

 
SESSION 3 – The Science Behind FRMS
Moderator:
  Capt. Jim Mangie, Pilot Fatigue Program Director, Delta Air Lines
 


13:30 – 13:40

 
Introduction:
Using Science to Guide Us
 

 
Capt. Jim Mangie,
Delta Air Lines

 
 13:40 - 13:55
 

 
The Causes of Fatigue

  • Sleep Loss
  • Circadian Factors
  • The "Perfect Roster"

 
Prof. Philippe Cabon, Paris Descartes University, France

Flight sponsored by:
National Airlines Council of Canada 

  

 
13:55 – 14:10

 
Measuring Fatigue (Including Bio-Mathematical Models)
 

 
Dr. Greg Belenky,
Washington State University, U.S.

Flight sponsored by:
National Airlines Council of Canada 

 

 
14:10 – 14:25

 
Science in an Operational Setting
 

 
Prof. Philippa Gander,
Massey University, New Zealand

Flight sponsored by:
Delta Air Lines
 

  

 
14:25 - 15:00

 
Lounge Interview:

Learning to Talk to Scientists

  • Where are the gaps?
  • Subject Matter Experts vs. Scientists
  • Asking scientists operational questions
  • What science do the mathematical models reflect?


Interviewees:

- Prof. Philippe Cabon
- Dr. Greg Belenky
- Prof. Philippa Gander

    

 
15:00 – 15:30
 

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by the Fatigue Risk Management Science Limited  

 

 

   

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SESSION 4 – Building and Maintaining Trust
Moderator:
  Ms. Michelle Millar, FRMS Project Coordinator, ICAO
 

 
15:30 – 16:30

 
Lounge Interview:

  • Effective safety reporting systems
  • Safety vs. labour negotiations
  • Personal responsibility and fitness for duty
  • The role of the DME in FRMS
  • Sleep disorders and medicals
  • The use of hypnotics
  • Sharing and protecting data (government, the regulator, the operator)

 
Interviewees:

- Capt. Don Wykoff,
  President, IFALPA
Dr. Tony Evans, Chief
  Aviation Med. Section,
  ICAO
- Mr. Bill Voss,
  CEO, FSF
Prof. Philippa Gander, 
  Director, Sleep/Wake
  Research Centre
 

 

 
16:30
 

 
Cocktail Reception
Hosted by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
 
 
  

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DAY 2: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 - Morning

 
SESSION 5 – FRMS Regulatory Challenges
Moderator
:  Mr. Mike Comber, Director ICAO Relations, IATA
 
 


9:00 – 9:10

 
Introduction
 
 


Mr. Mike Comber,
IATA 
 

 
9:10 – 9:30


The Problem with Operators

 
Wing Commander Ben Cook,
Australian Defence Force
 


9:30 – 9:50

 
Continuous Monitoring and Oversight of States with FRMS Regulations
 

 
Mr. Henry Gourdji,
Chief, CMO Section, ICAO
 

 
9:50 - 10:10
 

 
Can Regulators be Confident that an FRMS Provide an Acceptable Level of Safety?

  • Aesthetics vs. Substance
  • Performance Indicators
  • When to say "No"
     
 
Ms. Kathryn Jones,
Manager, Operational Regulation, UK CAA

 
10:10 - 10:30
 

 
Experiences on the Road to FRMS Regulation
 
Mr. Daniel Coutelier,
Rulemaking Officer, EASA
 

 
10:30 - 10:45
 

 
Question and Answer

 

 
Interviewees:

- Mr. Ben Cook
- Mr. Henry Gourdji
- Ms. Kathryn Jones
- Mr. Daniel Coutelier
 

    

 
10:45 – 11:15

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by AD-OPT, A Kronos Division 



 

    

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SESSION 6 – What do the FRMS SARPS Mean for States?
Moderator:  Mr. Jim Dow, Air Navigation Commissioner, Canada
 

 
11:15 – 12:00

 
Lounge Interview:
Standards for FRMS ask States to advance further in the direction of performance-based regulation.

  • What are the challenges for regulators in developing such regulations?
  • What difficulties can be anticipated when implementing them?
  • What can and should be done to ensure consistency when they are being interpreted and applied?
  • How can states know that they are working?
     


Interviewees:

- Ms. Nicole Girard
  Director, Policy and
  Regulatory Services,
  Transport Canada
- Ms. Izabela Tissot
  Antunes Sampaio
, Civil
  Aviation Regulation
  Specialist, ANAC
- Ms. Kathryn Jones,
 
Manager, Operational  
  Regulation, UK CAA
- Mr. John Duncan,
  Manager, Flight
  Standards, FAA
 

 12:00 - 13:30

Lunch 

 

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DAY 2: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 - Afternoon

 
SESSION 7 – FRMS Challenges for the Operator
Moderator
:  Capt. Paul McCarthy, Observer to the ANC, IFALPA
 

 
13:30 – 13:50


The Problem with Regulators

 


- Ms. Nancy Rockbrune
  Assistant Director,
  SMS, IATA
- Capt. Michel
  Chiasson,
National
  Airlines Council of
  Canada

 

 
13:50 – 14:05

 
Operators Large and Small - Is FRMS for Everybody?

  • Keeping it simple
  • High risks and increasing operational complexity

 
Dr. Alexandra Holmes,
Cranfield University

Flight sponsored by:
National Airlines Council of Canada 

 

 
14:05 – 14:20


What about the Cabin Crew?

  • Does anybody really care?

 
Ms. Candace Kolander,
International Transport Workers' Federation

   

 
14:30 – 15:00

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by InterDynamics
 
 

 
  

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SESSION 8 – The Difficult Questions

Interviewer
:  Bill Voss, CFO Flight Safety Foundation
 

 
15:00 – 15:45


Panel Interview

Bill Voss, Interviewer, will pose some of the more controversial and complex questions to our panel of experts, including:

  • Arguing safety but thinking efficiency
  • The issue of commuting
  • Controlled rest in the flight deck
  • Why has ICAO only focused on flight and cabin crew?
  • Is FRMS for everyone?


Interviewees:

- Ms. Kathryn Jones
- Capt. Don Wykoff
- Capt. Jim Mangie
- Dr. Michelle Millar
- Dr. Curt Graeber

 
15:45 – 16:15


The Future -  What can we Expect from FRMS?

  • How fatigue science has evolved and where it still needs to go
  • Managing risks rather than eliminating a problem


Dr. Mark Rosekind
Member, NTSB

 
16:15 – 16:30

 
Closure of the FRMS Symposium

  • Lead into FRMS Forum Meeting


Ms. Nancy Graham,
Director ANB, ICAO

 

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FRMS Forum's Third Annual Meeting

DAY 3: Thursday, 1 September 2011

 
1st September 2011
 

 
8:30 - 8:35

 
Welcome and Housekeeping
 


Mr. Douglas Mellor,
FRMS Forum
 


8:35 - 8:50


Introduction


Dr. Curt Graeber,
Chair, FRMS Forum
 

 
8:50 - 9:05
 

 
Addressing the myths about bio-mathematical models

 
Capt. Jim Mangie,
Delta Air Lines
 

 
9:05 - 10:20
 

 
Model Review 1

  • FAID

 


Mr. Len Pearson, Interdynamics Pty Ltd.
 
Mr. Richard Yates,
Integrated Safety Support
 
  

 
10:20 - 10:50
 

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by Integrated Safety Support (ISS)

 

 

  

   
10:50 - 11:20

 
Setting up a new operational network around FRMS
 
Capt. Simon Stewart,
NAS Air
    

 
11:20 - 12:35
 

 
Model Review 2

  • SAFTE/FAST
 
Dr. Steve Hursh, Institutes for Behavior Resources, Inc.
 

   

 
12:35 - 14:00

 
Lunch
 

   

 
14:00 - 15:15
 


Model Review 3

  • SAFE

Mick Spencer
 
Dr. Barbara Stone
, FRMSc Limited
 
  

 
15:15 - 15:45
 

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by the Aloft Group and Integrated Safety Support (ISS)
 

  

 

 

  

 
15:45 - 17:15
 


Lessons learned when Implementing FRMS

  • NetJets Europe, Portugal
  • German Wings
  • National Airlines Council of Canada (NACC)
     

 
Mr. Douglas Mellor,
FRMS Forum

  • Ms. Claudia Cabaco, Netjets Europe
  • Capt. Kristjof Tritschler,
    German Wings
  • Capt. Michel Chiasson, Chair, NACC

17:15

Close

 
19:00

 
Cocktails - Delta Hotel
Sponsored by CAA International



  


20:00

 
Dinner Reception - Delta Hotel

Participants planning to attend this reception must register at the FRMS Forum website by clicking here
 

 
At individual's personal cost of $88 CAD per head

 

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DAY 4: Friday, 2 September 2011

 
2nd September 2011
 

 
8:30 - 9:45

 
Model Review 4

  • Circadian Alertness Simulator


Dr. Martin Moore-Ede, Circadian Technology
 


9:45 - 10:00

 
Fatigue Reporting Forms and the role of the Fatigue Safety Action Group


Dr. David Powell
Air New Zealand
 

  

 
10:00 - 10:30
 

 
Coffee / Refreshments
Sponsored by Interdynamics Pty Ltd.
 

 
   

 
10:30 - 11:45
 

 
Model Review 5

  • The Boeing Alertness Model

Mr. Tomas Klemets, Jeppesen
 


11:45 - 12:05
 


Separating Industry Issues from Safety Issues
 


Capt. Rob Holliday,
Virgin Atlantic
 

 
12:05 - 12:20
 

 
FAA Approach
 
Dr. Tom Nesthus, FAA
Mr. Dale Robers, FAA
 

 

 
12:20 - 13:45
 

 
Lunch 

  

 
13:45 - 14:25
 


Summary of the Models 


Ms. Kathryn Jones,
UK CAA and Presenters
 


14:25 - 14:55
 


Validating models within an operational environment
 


Ms. Lydia Hambour, easyJet

Dr. Arnab Majumbar,
Imperial College, London
 

 
14:55 - 15:25
 

 
The "Fit to Fly" Approach

 
Dr. Reis Simons,
TNO
 


15:25
 


Closing Remarks

Dr. Curt Graeber,
Chair, FRMS Forum
 

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For more information please contact: FRMS2011@icao.int 

 

 Last Updated: 29 August 2011